. Thecryptorg guy has a great insiders’ commentary about wikileaif anyone missed itks

Fwd: [van911discussions] Wikileaks is disinfo
Kevin Kelso <savethehumans911@gmail.com> 

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I have a few points to offer about the Wikileaks debate,
Most of the stuff was already leaked. cryptorg is the real wikileaks, and is being overlooked and dismissed by the mainstream media. Thecryptorg guy has a great insiders’ commentary about wikileaif anyone missed itks
why is MSM focussing so much on this particular leak site?
If assange does have more damning evidence, why didn’t he come forward with that stuff first, instead of this softcore, half disinfo crap?
You say, they are time delay releasing all this info.. but i call it gatekeeping. obviously they have seen it all and are picking and choosing what stuff to release. i can tell you from Assange’s own quotes that he would instantly dismiss any 911 truth related leak.
the prince andrew stuff would bring you to the Saudi and British royal arm of the 911 plot..

Webster Tarpley also has an interesting notion that Assange is an MKultra product.. here’s the interview he did with Alex Jones

having said all that, there is still some solid, valuable stuff in there, and it is a symptom of a changing culture. Even if it is a controlled opposition, the very fact that they had to create such a thing points to a concession to a demand for some truth about what the hell is going on in this world. It’s like Israel conceding to Palestine’s demands for their own government, and creating Hamas for them. It’s a start.
Perhaps a truth and reconciliation process is beginning. The information revolution is beginning!
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Mike wrote

Interesting rant Paul, but you haven’t provided one single shred of evidence throughout it.  Your entire response is based on “assumptions.”

Do you want to know why Wikileaks stinks of a “American gov’t controlled operation”  because the main leaks (Afghan/Iraq War Logs and the US Diplomatic Cables) were all written by—–YOu guessed it—-Americans. Now to become a diplomat or soldier there seems to be one overriding factor—PATRIOTISM.  Thus when they write these cables there is certainly a “varnishing” of the truth or self-censorship.  So when all these “war logs” and “cables” were released and looked at as a whole you can certainly stand back and see an American bias because that is who they’re written by.

Also you say that the reason these leaks are being exposed is a prelude to Internet censorship. These leaks are not going to coax people into favoring Internet censorship because the leaks don’t affect Joe-blue collar.  In my opinion, it would take a very brave and very stupid politician to promise to censor the internet in his manifesto. It would be staggeringly unpopular, not only from a civil rights point of view, but also from a business point of view.  And can DARPA shut down sites? No they can’t.  Not if they’re mirrored and hosted in foreign countries that don’t adhere to US policy.

However, your contention is that aside from those—there should have been some more juicy tidbits leaked to the website.  I wonder that too.   Why haven’t more people wanted to end up like Bradley Manning?  In solitary confinement, descending into insanity and facing 52 years in prison.  For god sakes, most employees will not even risk their job to release secret information, never mind facing decades in a military prison.  Furthermore, the sad truth of the matter is that in most countries you will not face prison for releasing secrets—you’ll face death.

I also wonder why the long running website Crytome.org has also not released secret information regarding the Royal family, Climategate and the satanic, pedophile upper class you mentioned.  Are they CIA,  KGB or Mossad…maybe you can tell me…or better yet send your evidence to Wikileaks and maybe they will publish it.

So far the juicy little “tidbits” I’ve read are very juicy indeed…

• US diplomats warned of increasing distrust of the United States in Canada. They described “negative popular stereotyping” of Americans on Canadian TV. They also said Canadians “always carry a chip on their shoulder” in part because of a feeling that their country “is condemned to always play ‘Robin’ to the US ‘Batman'”.

• Washington is running a secret intelligence campaign targeted at the leadership of the United Nations, including the secretary general, Ban Ki-moon, and the permanent security council representatives from China, Russia, France and the UK.

• An official from the Commonwealth secretariat claimed Prince Charles is not respected in the same way as the Queen and questioned whether the heir apparent should necessarily succeed his mother as the head of the Commonwealth.

• Saudi Arabia put pressure on the US to attack Iran. Other Arab allies also secretly agitated for military action against Tehran.

• Spain’s El País focuses on repeated attempts by the US to curb court cases in Spain against American soldiers and politicians accused of involvement in Iraq war crimes or torture at Guantánamo.

• The British government promised to protect US interests during the Chilcot inquiry into the Iraq war.

• British and US officials colluded to manoeuvre around a proposed ban on cluster bombs, allowing the US to keep the munitions on British territory, regardless of whether a treaty forbidding their use was implemented. Parliament was kept in the dark about the secret agreement, approved by then-foreign secretary David Miliband.

• One of the biggest objectives at the US embassy in Madrid over the past seven years has been trying to get the criminal case dropped against three US soldiers accused of the killing of a Spanish television cameraman in Baghdad. Telecinco cameraman José Couso was killed on 8 April 2003 during a tank shelling of the Hotel Palestine where he and other journalists were staying while they were covering the Iraqwar. US diplomats held a host of meetings about the case with high-ranking members of the Spanish government.

The US military has been charging its allies a 15% handling fee on hundreds of millions of dollars being raised internationally to build up the Afghan army. Germany has threatened to cancel contributions, raising concerns that money is going to the US treasury.
You can read countless more on The Guardian’s website.

If you’re to believe that the US government went to all the trouble to “fabricate” not 100, a 1000 or even 10,000 documents, but now as it stands, a little less than ONE MILLION documents for public release, AND that the thousands of US embassy staff– worldwide–were all IN on it as well (oops and not to mention the ten of thousands of US soldiers who wrote the war reports), THEN you have a larger imagination then most.

I’m sorry but the argument just does not hold any water because there is not any hard evidence to support it.  Just because China and Russiasay Wikileaks is CIA or Mossad or whatever…it doesn’t make it so.  Show me some REAL evidence.

Adios Mike.



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